Hasidic rabbis from the Satmar sect reportedly have issued a decree barring women from pursuing higher education.
The Yiddish-language decree says college education for girls is “dangerous” and “against the Torah,” and that “no girls attending our school are allowed to study and get a degree,” The Independent online newspaper based in Britain reported Tuesday.
According to the Independent, the decree was issued by Satmar leaders in New York and applies to members of the sect worldwide.
Responding to the report, the Board of Deputies of British Jews said in a statement, according to UK’s Jewish News: “The mainstream Jewish community would certainly reject this view. Both Jewish girls and boys should all have the opportunity to go to university if that is what they want to do.”
The Satmar decree said the sect’s schools will not hire women “who’ve been to college or have a degree.”
“We have to keep our school safe and we can’t allow any secular influences in our holy environment. It is against the base upon which our [institution] was built,” the decree said.
Satmar is the largest sect of haredi Orthodox Jews in the United Kingdom, according to the Independent, which said the country’s haredi Orthodox population is estimated at 30,000.
This video is from an episode of 60 Minutes. It provides context but also a sense of awareness that little has changed. In our view, the Satmar of Kiryas Joel are little more than a cult. Their strength comes not from the weapons of the cultists of Waco but from a political voting bloc. Their indoctrination comes not from Hollywood bigwigs but from pseudo rabbinical precepts and edicts.
We wonder what would happen to politics if the Church of Scientology did not have wealthy benefactors and a Hollywood presence. Would politicians pander to the chuch’s leaders similarly? Do they now?
A cult disguised by religion and a language it chooses to call its own is still a cult. When the cult’s rabbis choose violence to further their own personal agendas, in our view they are no better than Charles Manson. The difference is that Manson is in jail as are/were his followers.
INVESTIGATION IN THE DROWNING OF TWO MEN IN MAIMI CONTINUES, WE DON’T BELIEVE IT TO HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT AT ALL
According to sources at the Miami Date Police Department to date, the death of the two victims Yitzchak (a/k/a Isaac) Rosenberg and Chaim Parnes continues. With the sheer bulk of investigations of their desks, this case would have been closed as an accidental drowning, if that is, indeed what happened.
Sources close to the investigation say that the MDPD has received too many tips indicating that this may have been something other than an accidental drowning of men swimming on a secluded beach, known for is riptides.
The investigation is being handled by the Department’s Homicide Bureau and is ongoing.
The News Release from the Miami Dade Police Department follows:
Media Contact: Detective Marjorie Eloi me@mdpd.com (305)471-1900
Topic:
Death Investigation
Case #:
PD160517186056
Date & Time of Occurrence:
05/17/2016 at approx. 11:19 a.m.
Address of Occurrence:
10800 Collins Avenue
Sunny Isle, Florida
Victim #1:
Victim’s Name:
Aaron Wercberger, (W/M)
Unknown, New York
Deceased #1:
Deceased’s Name:
Issac Rosenberg, (W/M)
Deceased’s DOB:
09/02/1948
Deceased’s Age:
67
Deceased’s Address:
Unknown
Deceased #2:
Deceased’s Name:
Chaim Parnes , (W/M)
Deceased’s DOB:
08/14/1949
Deceased’s Age:
66
Deceased’s Address:
Unknown
Death Investigation
(Miami-Dade County, FL) —
Detectives from the Miami-Dade Police Department’s Homicide Bureau are investigating the drowning of two men at Haulover Beach, near Lifeguard Tower Four, late Tuesday morning.
Initial reports are that just after eleven o’clock four friends visiting from Brooklyn, New York went swimming near Lifeguard Tower Four. Three of them were caught by strong currents. A Bal Harbour off-duty police officer and two Miami-Dade Ocean Rescue Lifeguards observed the men in distress and plunged into the water to help. Miami-Dade Fire Rescue transported two of the victims to Aventura Hospital in critical condition. The third swimmer was transported to Mount Sinai Hospital in stable condition.
Shortly after noon, Isaac Rosenberg and Chaim Parnes, the two transported to Aventura Hospital, were pronounced deceased by doctors there.
“The Miami-Dade Police Department’s Homicide Bureau is leading the investigation.”
While the incident last week was reported as a drowning, a homicide division is investigating. While Rabbi Yitzchak Rosenberg (zl) donated 50K to a Satmar yeshiva in Israel 2 hours before he died, the community of Kiryas Joel was in an uproar about the location of his burial “because he was found naked.” What?
The community of Kiryas Joel has been in an uproar about the reporting by Blaize Gomez of the funeral and Kiryas Joel response, Why?
There are so many gaping holes in the story a graphic would look like swiss cheese, not Kosher at that.
Read on…
Jewish Community Mourns Loss Of Prominent Rabbis Who Drowned At Haulover Park
A prominent Satmar Hasid from New York donated $50,000 to charity just two hours before he died in a North Miami Beach drowning accident, it was revealed Wednesday.
Rabbi Yitzchok Rosenberg donated the money to the Satmar Institutions of Jerusalem, BHadrei Haderim reports, following a phone call from its leader, Rabbi Zanvil Foigel. Rabbi Foigel is currently in the US.
Rosenberg and businessman Rabbi Chaim Parnes drowned Tuesday after being pulled into a riptide along a North Miami Beach beachfront. Three others sustained serious injuries.
Wednesday morning, a private plane transported their bodies to Orange County, where they were buried; thousands of people attended the funeral, according to local news reports.
Both Rosenberg and Parnes were well-known figures in the Satmar community, in Willamsburg, Brooklyn and Kiryas Joel, respectively.
Three others sustained serious injuries? Only one other was taken to the hospital and the other two have not been heard of. Does that make any sense?
Hasid donated $50K to yeshivot hours before drowning
Rabbi Yitzhak Rosenberg donated the money to Satmar institutions in Israel, haredi website reports – then died hours later.
A prominent Satmar Hasid from New York donated $50,000 to charity just two hours before he died in a North Miami Beach drowning accident, it was revealed Wednesday.
Rabbi Yitzhak Rosenberg donated the money to the Satmar Institutions of Jerusalem, BHadrei Haderim reports, following a phone call from its leader, Rabbi Zanvil Foigel. Rabbi Foigel is currently in the US.
Journalists Want to shed light on the Enshrouded Secrets Within Kiryas Joel and Other Communities
Yesterday we reported on Blaise Gomez, the attempts to silence her and the threats she received. It should not be any secret why we value anonymity. In largely unprecedented action in the United States, given our notion of free speech and our disdain for censorship, a petition showed up on Change.Org. The petition is predicated on the desire to end the secrecy by demanding that Journalists be permitted their 1st Amendment rights to report on a community, something the suppression of the people within the community clearly does not foster. The Scientologists appear to prevent their community [cult] from similar reporting. Do we see a pattern here?
We are supporting the petition and hope our readership will it and support the efforts, which we are told come from within the community. The drafters are looking for 500 signatures. We would like to see 10,000.
We make one final comment, a point raised by one of our readers. To those journalists who may or may not benefit from this petition, including Blaize Gomez, we ask that if you have a Facebook Page or a Twitter account or other form of social media, you moderate the comments. The sheer hatred and anti-Semitism, not to be mistaken for anything but hatred and loathsome bigotry diminishes the message you are trying to convey. Admittedly, Ms. Gomez’s FB page is loaded with vile comments aimed at Jews; and it is difficult to respect a journalist who allows that to happen. We suggest that while you are signing the petition, comment to her page leting Ms. Gomez know her message, like those of many others, gets lost in the hatred, anti-Semitism and bigotry that is permitted or perhaps not prevented on her pages.
Yitzchak Rosenberg and a Beach in Miami – A Tale of Two Cities, the Satmar, former Mob connections, Diamonds and Drowning – Part II
Were the Men Dressed or Were they Naked? Were they Swimming or…. Sometimes What is Said by the Commenters is Far more Telling than What is Reported by the Press
May 20, 2016
Aside from a segment of the ultra-Orthodox/Orthodox Jewish community, many of whom believe as they are instructed, reasonable minds have questions about what happened on the beach in Miami. The entire story simply does not add up. The dark and disreputable history of Yitzchak Rosenberg (zl) and the prone-to-unfortunate-events diamond dealing Chaim Parnes (zl) make the incident on that secluded and unguarded beach that day all the more dubious.
We point to the obvious: the “victims had been swimming in an unguarded section of the beach that was marked as off-limits to bathers, adding that strong currents had been observed in the ocean.” There are conflicting events regarding “A fifth individual with the group [who] was also taken to the hospital later with symptoms possibly related to the stress of the incident….” What does “possibly related” mean?
Newspaper reports cited in our article yesterday suggest that there was a third swimmer who was in the hospital following the rescue. Does this mean that a fourth person went to the hospital later that day?
There has been continued speculation regarding whether or not the men were pulled out of the water naked or scantily clad. There have been whispers but no official press reports, not even a hint of a report, and the silence on this is deafening. One commenter to an article posted in Vos Iz Neias on May 17, 2016 may have unwittingly answered that question.
Please note, while the commenters’ names are publicly available on the Voz Iz Neias site [and likely will be removed following publication of this article], out of respect for their anonymity, we removed commenters’ names where they did not call themselves “anonymous.” We fully understand the wrath of the community in which many commenters likely live (we assume most to this article are frum) and we are all too aware of those who want to silence any voice.
Baruch Dayan HaEmet. There is always an opportunity to judge favorably and always a good opportunity to be quiet and not say a beep. This beach was deserted except for the Yidden. It’s obvious that was being used as a mikveh and that there was no pritzut or this would have not happened. Next time you want to judge bite your tongue. HaSh-m is the true judge and only he knows why this tzadikim were taken.
We had always assumed that these men were naked when they were pulled out of the water. The comment above left little uncertainty as to whether or not the men were clothed, the “mikveh”. The mikveh is a ritual bath intended to cleanse the body and soul. It is required not only that the person be naked, but clean, well groomed and that no hairs or other particles get in the way of the water touching the skin.
We make no conclusions regarding the laws and the issue of “pritzut” or prohibition. What we are pointing to here is simply that the commenter (#5) must have known the men were naked or it would not have been so “obvious” that they were taking a ritual bath. Their nudity is something we have believed, but has been kept from the public. Commenter #5 may have confirmed our suspicions.
If he or she is right, then perhaps their nudity would not seem so suspicious, perhaps. The anonymous person (#19) who responds changes all that.
“ Baruch Dayan HaEmet. There is always an opportunity to judge favorably and always a good opportunity to be quiet and not say a beep. This beach was deserted except for the Yidden. It’s obvious that was being used as a mikveh and that there was no pritzut or this would have not happened. Next time you want to judge bite your tongue. HaSh-m is the true judge and only he knows why this tzadikim were taken. ”
They went swimming. There are a number of men’s mikvahs in Miami. Including one at Kereister Shtiebel
Anonymous (#19), in his reply to the previous poster’s comments, raises questions about the “obvious” conclusion of the mikveh because of the proximity to other mikehs. There are many nearby mikvehs. He does not dispute whether or not they were clothed, which would have contradicted a conclusion of a ritual bath. His knowledge of the nearby mikvehs (a/k/a mikvahs) leads one to the conclusion that he is also a member of the frum community. It would seem #19 knows more than what is being reported, but may or may not be phased by it.
“ Baruch Dayan HaEmet. There is always an opportunity to judge favorably and always a good opportunity to be quiet and not say a beep. This beach was deserted except for the Yidden. It’s obvious that was being used as a mikveh and that there was no pritzut or this would have not happened. Next time you want to judge bite your tongue. HaSh-m is the true judge and only he knows why this tzadikim were taken. ”
Why was it “used as a ‘mikveh?’ A deserted beach & ocean is good for swimming…good exercise and enjoy the beauty of HaShem. Todah
We are assuming that this anonymous poster is a different person than the previous one (though he could be the same). We also believe him or her to be a member of the frum community from the use of “HaShem” which translates directly to “The Name” but is the term used generally by the frum community as a reference to G-d.
Again we turn back to the question of whether or not these men were clothed and actually what they were doing on a deserted beach at the ocean without a lifeguard on duty and in perilous conditions, as marked on the beach. The fact that this beach was deserted and that there was no lifeguard on duty and the conditions of the water made this beach unsuitable for swimming, which is noted in Voz Iz Neias article itself:
“Haulover is known to have strong currents,” said Benitez. “We do have a lot of near drownings in the Haulover inlet area, which is about a quarter of a mile away.”
The fact that the area was deserted today is what likely appealed to the group in the first place, but Benitez warned that swimming without supervision in the area is highly discouraged.
“We emphasize the importance of swimming only at guarded areas of the beach where lifeguards are present,” said Benitez.
__________ (#62) Says:
This is very strange. I always admired how the chasidim are able to achieve kevurah on the same day as you misa. Yet here it is taking an unusually long time to get the bodies released. There was no foul play. What is going on?
Kevurah means burial. Under strict Jewish law, and generally followed by all Jews, a body is supposed to be buried within 24 to 48 hours following death.
We actually find it troubling that there appears to have been no autopsy done, or at least the reports have been silent on this subject. Burial sans autopsy is not uncommon within the Jewish community, particularly among the ultra-Orthodox community for religious reasons beyond the timing of the burial. We thought the body was released far too quickly. To the contrary, however, #62 above seems to think it strange that the body was not released more quickly.
We have to wonder whether perhaps the medical examiner did conduct an autopsy (albeit quickly). Were that to have occurred, then we are plausably not the only ones who suspect that this was not a case of some beach-goers carried away in riptides. If an autopsy did not occur then we are left no less suspicious about whether or not drowning was actually the “cause of death” though we are certain the official death certificate is likely going to read that way.
LM Assistance Requested: The photographs are from the Voz Iz Neias article. If anyone can identify the people in the photographs (and those in the article), we would be curious to know who they are.
The Two Largely Unnamed Men – the two who were either not swimming or were not carried away by riptides but are finally named…
Miami, FL – Official: Area Where 2 New York Haredi Residents Drowned Is Unguarded Beach Known For Strong Currents
Miami, FL – A well known real estate developer and renowned member of the Satmar community was one of two who died this morning in the Atlantic Ocean in North Miami Beach.
Yitzchak Rosenberg, owner of Certified Lumber in Williamsburg and owner and developer of several properties in Williamsburg, was pronounced dead on the scene after a riptide unexpectedly swept the group out into the ocean.
The second man was identified as Chaim Parnes, a diamond dealer who was robbed of $35,000 worth of merchandise, pistol whipped and had his tires slashed on a Thanksgiving 2015 visit to North Miami, according to Miami’s Local 10 News. At the time, Parnes said he was grateful to have survived the encounter.
“If (you) take away life, (it) doesn’t come back,” Parnes said. “So I’m thankful for God. Today’s Thanksgiving. I’m giving up big time for God that I’m alive.”
The two were among a group of five visitors from Kiryas Joel and Brooklyn who were at Haulover Beach on 140th and Collins Avenue. There were no lifeguards present in the area where the men were swimming, with signs posted warning beachgoers to swim only in guarded areas and warning of the dangers of rip currents, according to Erika Benitez, public information officer for Miami Dade Fire and Rescue.
“There is a lifeguard tower there but there was no lifeguard on duty,” Benitez told VIN News. “We can only man so many towers and the no swimming signs were posted.”
Benitez said that a call came in at approximately 11:15 AM, advising of as many as four people possibly in the water. By the time lifeguards reached the area, Aron Wurzberger and Yitzchok Englander, both of Kiryas Joel, had already managed to get out of the water. A fifth member of the group also emerged from the water unharmed.
LOSTMESSIAH 
“ זאָל ניט אידן דורך די ברעג ”