Fundamentalism in Judaism – YOU ARE NOT A JEW!

Fundamentalism in Judaism – A Slippery Slope

Lost Messiah June 24, 2016

We have been covering ultra-Orthodox Jewish fundamentalism in recent weeks as it has become more prevalent and more imposing upon other Jews and non-Jews alike.  We see little difference in some circles between ultra-Orthodox fundamentalist Jews and Muslims and have illustrated our point in several articles.

On June 23, 2016, The New York Times published an article questioning the divide between “[Israel’s] increasingly strict ultra-Orthodox religious establishment and Jews abroad over the age-old question of “who is a Jew.”” What we find most disturbing about the article is the “criteria” by which a Rabbi must be ordained to perform conversions, which is set by a the Rabbinate in Israel. Like all things ordained (OU certification) we believe that there is a slippery slope created when a single rabbinate gets to choose which universities and places of higher learning are deemed “kosher” enough to perform conversions.

Are the Rabbi’s hands clean enough to make such determination? At what point does this become a business endeavor enshrouded in religious garb? Are we placing too much power in the hands of too few? Are we not setting the stage for Judaism to adopt extremist values over Torah values, many of which in our view are antithetical to extremism? At what point will the Jews have imposed upon them the Jewish equivalent of Sharia law?

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Who Is a Jew? Maybe Not Woman Converted by Esteemed New York Rabbi

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/world/middleeast/israel-rabbinate-jewish-conversion.html?_r=1

JERUSALEM — Critics of Israel’s chief rabbinate have long complained that scores of American converts to Judaism have trouble getting approval to marry in Israel. Now, one such case with a celebrity connection could break open the rabbinate’s longstanding secrecy over which foreign rabbis are approved to conduct conversions.

The case involves an American who, shortly after her Orthodox conversion in New York, became engaged to an Israeli, only to have the local rabbinical court in his hometown reject her status as a Jew when they tried to register for marriage.

As it turns out, the rabbi who signed the woman’s conversion certificate also converted Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka, and officiated at Ms. Trump’s 2009 wedding to Jared Kushner, the newspaper publisher now planning the presumptive Republican nominee’s potential transition to the White House.

The rabbi, Haskel Lookstein, is one of the most respected Orthodox rabbis in New York, where he has led Manhattan’s Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun for decades, after taking over the pulpit from his father. He recently received an honorary doctorate from Israel’s Bar-Ilan University in recognition for what it called “the influential role he has played in deepening Jewish values and heritage among American Jewry.”

The case raises the question of whether Ms. Trump — who said in a Vogue magazine interview last year that she and her husband were “pretty observant,” keeping kosher and the Jewish Sabbath — would be accepted as Jewish herself in all quarters in Israel.

More broadly, it illustrates a growing divide between Israel’s increasingly strict ultra-Orthodox religious establishment and many Jews abroad over the age-old question of “who is a Jew” that has complicated Israel’s relationship with the diaspora for decades.

The Israeli rabbinate, which controls Jewish marriage and most Jewish burial sites in the country, does not recognize non-Orthodox streams of Judaism like Reform and Conservative, with which the majority of affiliated American Jews identify. In rejecting Rabbi Lookstein’s conversion and those of others in similar positions, the rabbinical authorities now risk alienating Jews abroad who practice modern Orthodoxy according to Halakha, or Jewish law.
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“Ten years ago, if an Orthodox rabbi in good standing performed a conversion, it would have been a given that it would be accepted here,” said Rabbi Seth Farber, the founder of Itim, an Israeli organization that has been critical of the rabbinate and is pressing the case of Rabbi Lookstein’s American convert.

He added, “I’d say this is unprecedented in Jewish history, that one group of rabbis rejects another.”

Itim handles up to 150 cases a year of modern-Orthodox converts from the United States who are struggling to get married in Israel or are experiencing other issues with the religious establishment. As Rabbi Farber put it, “Almost everyone has problems nowadays.”

The American convert, who is appealing her case to Israel’s supreme rabbinical court, declined to be interviewed, and the rabbis discussed her situation on the condition that she not be identified in order to protect her privacy.

Her supporters said that she converted just over a year ago, after about a year of study, and soon met the man who would become her fiancé in Petah Tikva, a bedroom community near Tel Aviv. The rabbinical court there first ruled in April that her conversion was invalid.

After a preliminary hearing in the supreme rabbinical court in Jerusalem, Rabbi Itamar Tubul, the director of the chief rabbinate’s department of personal status and conversion, wrote a letter to the Petah Tikva court saying that the conversion certificate signed by Rabbi Lookstein was “approved by the chief rabbinate of Israel.” (Two other Kehilath Jeshurun rabbis also signed the certificate.)

But the Petah Tikva court issued a second ruling against the conversion on June 8, saying that it had found no mention of Rabbi Lookstein on its lists of approved rabbis.

Rabbi Lookstein, 84, is now in an emeritus position at Kehilath Jeshurun, which has a membership of 1,100 families, and is considered one of the most established and mainstream Orthodox rabbis in America.

In a telephone interview, he said that this case was a first for him, though he was not aware of anyone else who had been converted by him or his colleagues at Kehilath Jeshurun who then tried to marry in Israel.

“The irony is that this woman is very meticulous about her religious observance,” Rabbi Lookstein said. “She is as Jewish as I am, and as Jewish as the rabbis signed on the certificate, except in the eyes of the Petah Tikva rabbinate.”

“The bottom line,” he added, “is that the rabbinate in Israel is not respecting and honoring the work of the Orthodox rabbinate in America on conversion.”

Rabbi Lookstein said he expected that the woman would ultimately win her appeal and be able to marry in Israel. “But the battle is taking so much out of this woman and causing such pain at a time when she should be happiest in her life,” he lamented, adding that the Petah Tikva rabbis were perpetrating “a terrible sin” because ”the Torah is very explicit that a convert should be treated with love and never afflicted.”

The case has not only roiled American Jewish leaders and Israeli critics of the rabbinate’s monopoly, it has unfolded into a byzantine power struggle between the Petah Tikva court and Rabbi Tubul’s department, with each side accusing the other of overstepping its authority.

Rabbi Tubul said that the office of the chief rabbinate was “in shock” over the challenge posed by the local Petah Tikva court and that he had advised the convert to appeal to the supreme rabbinical court in Jerusalem.

Rabbi Tubul denied that the rabbinate was rejecting modern Orthodox rabbis, and said that “dozens” of rabbis in America were approved to conduct conversions.

The list of such rabbis has long been shrouded in secrecy. Itim, Rabbi Farber’s group, recently sued the rabbinate in a Jerusalem civil court to force it to make the list public. The rabbinate provided a partial list of rabbis it said had been certified over the previous six months; Rabbi Lookstein and other major Orthodox rabbis in the United States were not on it.

Rabbi Tubul said that he was pushing to have a list of approved rabbis published on the chief rabbinate’s website. Among the main criteria for getting on the list, he said, are that rabbis overseas be ordained in a seminary recognized for high standards of learning, and conduct themselves and their congregations according to Orthodox religious law.

Rabbi Lookstein received his ordination in 1958 from the Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary in New York, which is part of Yeshiva University.

“People who do their work in a God-fearing manner and with clean hands will receive the recognition of the chief rabbinate of Israel,” Rabbi Tubul said.

 

 

Who is a Jew?

Competing answers to an increasingly pressing question

http://www.economist.com/news/international/21593507-competing-answers-increasingly-pressing-question-who-jew

SLIGHT, bespectacled and friendly, Rabbi Itamar Tubul makes an unlikely frontiersman. But his colleague Ziv Maor, a spokesman for Israel’s chief rabbinate, argues that as head of the department of personal status and conversions, Rabbi Tubul plays as big a role in protecting the state as the Israel Defence Forces. On his desk in Jerusalem lie the testimony of a rabbi in Finland and a ketubah (marriage certificate) from Germany. Rabbi Tubul’s job is to determine whether the subjects of these documents, and many others, are Jewish.

Who is a Jew? This question is becoming ever more pressing for Jews around the world. It looks like a religious issue, but is bound up with history, Israeli politics and the rhythms of the diaspora. Addressing it means deciding whether assimilation is a mortal threat, as many Jews think, or a phenomenon to be accommodated. The struggle over the answer will shape Israel’s society, its relations with Jews elsewhere, and the size and complexion of the global Jewish community.

For Orthodox Jews like Rabbi Tubul, the solution is simple and ancient: you are a Jew if your mother is Jewish, or if your conversion to Judaism accorded with the Halacha, Jewish religious law. Gentiles might be surprised that for Jews by birth this traditional test makes no reference to faith or behaviour. Jews may be atheist (many are: apostasy is a venerable Jewish tradition) and still Jews. Joel Roth, a Conservative rabbi at the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York, likens this nativist criterion to that for American citizenship: Americans retain it regardless of their views on democracy or the constitution. Some strict rabbis even think that a child is not Jewish if born to a devout mother but from a donated gentile egg.

As some Jewish leaders privately acknowledge, this formula has uncomfortable racial undertones. Their response is that it causes no harm to others. Perhaps, but in the secular world it can be awkward. A few years ago, for example, state-funded Jewish schools in Britain were obliged to change their admissions codes after they were judged to have violated the Race Relations Act. And the halachic rules are increasingly troubling to Jews themselves.

For many Israelis, the rabbis are the problem. In a concession designed to widen support for the new state, when Israel was founded its secular rulers left matters of marriage, divorce and burial in the rabbinate’s hands. It decides who is eligible for these rites, as well as carrying them out—so would-be brides and grooms must demonstrate their Jewish credentials. Supplying the necessary documents and witnesses can be inconvenient and galling: people resent having to prove what they know to be true. Immigration has made the system seem not just irksome but unsustainable.

For example, the Ethiopian Jews who migrated to Israel in the 1980s-90s, risking their lives and losing relatives along the way, have faced persistent doubts as to whether they are properly Jewish in doctrine and descent. “I feel that I’m the Jew I want to be,” protests Fentahun Assefa-Dawit of Tebeka, an advocacy group for the 130,000-strong community. “I don’t want anyone to tell me how to be Jewish.” Western migrants, too, are sometimes doubted. The rabbinate considers some American rabbis too lax to vouch for their congregants and rejects their testimonies; it deems many overseas conversions inadequate. Many Israelis worry about the impact of such disdain on the diaspora’s political and financial backing for their state.

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  1. GENTILES IN HALACHA

    Foreword — Daat Emet

    For a long time we have been considering the necessity of informing our readers about Halacha’s real attitude towards non-Jews. Many untrue things are publicized on this issue and the facts should be made clear. But recently, we were presented with a diligently written article on the subject, authored by a scholar from the Merkaz HaRav yeshiva — so our job was done by others (though we have already discussed some aspects of this issue in the weekly portions of Balak and Matot; see there). Since there is almost no disagreement between us and the author of the article on this issue, we have chosen to bring the article “Jews Are Called ‘Men'” by R’ David Bar-Chayim (in Hebrew) so that the reader will be able to study and understand the attitude of the Halacha towards non-Jews.
    In this article R’ Bar-Chayim discusses the attitude towards “Gentiles” in the Torah and in the Halacha and comes to an unambiguous conclusion:

    “The Torah of Israel makes a clear distinction between a Jew, who is defined as ‘man,’ and a Gentile.”

    That is to say, any notion of equality between human beings is irrelevant to the Halacha. R’ Bar-Chayim’s work is comprehensive, written with intellectual honesty, and deals with almost all the aspects of Halachic treatment of non-Jews. It also refutes the statements of those rabbis who speak out of wishful thinking and, influenced by concepts of modern society, claim that Judaism does not discriminate against people on religious grounds. R’ Bar-Chayim shows that all these people base their constructs not on the Torah but solely on the inclinations of their own hearts. He also shows that there are even rabbis who intentionally distort the Halachic attitude to Gentiles, misleading both themselves and the general public.

    For the English readers’ convenience we will briefly mention the topics dealt with in R’ Bar-Chayim’s article:

    Laws in regard to murder, which clearly state that there is Halachic difference between murder of a Jew and of a Gentile (the latter is considered a far less severe crime).
    A ban on desecrating the Sabbath to save the life of a Gentile.
    A Jew’s exemption from liability if his property (e. g. ox) causes damage to a Gentile’s property. But if a Gentile’s property causes damage to a Jew’s property, the Gentile is liable.
    The question of whether robbery of a Gentile is forbidden by the Torah’s law or only by a Rabbinic decree.
    A ban on returning a lost item to a Gentile if the reason for returning it is one’s sympathy towards the Gentile and compassion for him.
    The sum which a Gentile overpays in a business transaction due to his own error is forfeit; whether a Jew is permitted to intentionally deceive a Gentile is also discussed.
    One who kidnaps a Jew is liable to death, but one who kidnaps a Gentile is exempt.
    A Jew who hurts or injures a Gentile is not liable for compensation of damage, but a Gentile who hurts a Jew is liable to death.
    One who overcharges a Gentile ought not return him the sum that the Gentile overpaid.
    A Gentile — or even a convert to Judaism — may not be appointed king or public official of any sort (e. g. a cabinet minister).
    One who defames a female proselyte (claiming that she was not virgin at the time of her marriage) is liable to neither lashes nor fine.
    The prohibition to hate applies only to Jews; one may hate a Gentile.
    One may take revenge against or bear a grudge towards Gentiles; likewise, the commandment “love your neighbor” applies only to Jews, not to Gentiles.
    One who sees Gentile graveyards should curse: “Your mother shall be greatly ashamed…”
    Gentiles are likened to animals.
    If an ox damaged a Gentile maidservant, it should be considered as though the ox damaged a she-ass.
    The dead body of a Gentile does not bear ritual impurity, nor does a Gentile who touches the dead body of a Jew become impure — he is considered like an animal who touched a dead body.
    One is forbidden to pour anointing oil on a Jew, but there is no ban on pouring that oil on a Gentile because Gentiles are likened to animals.
    An animal slaughtered by a Gentile is forbidden, even if the ritual slaughter performed was technically correct, because Gentiles are deemed like animals. (Daat Emet does not agree that this is the Halachic reason for invalidating a Gentile’s ritual slaughter — but this is not the place to delve into the subject).
    Their members(genitals) are like those of asses” — Gentiles are likened to animals.
    Between the Jews and the Gentiles — In the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and in Jewish Thought

    R’ Bar-Chayim’s arguments and conclusions are clear, Halachically accurate, and supported by almost all the existent major Halachic works. It would be superfluous to say that R’ Bar-Chayim fully embraces this racist Halachic outlook as the word of the Living G-d, as he himself pointed out in the “Conclusion” of his article: “It is clear to every Jew who accepts the Torah as G-d’s word from Sinai, obligatory and valid for all generations, that it is impossible to introduce ‘compromises’ or ‘renovations’ into it.”
    On the other hand, we want to make it clear that Daat Emet — as well as any reasonable people who do not embrace Halachic laws as the word of the Living G-d — are repulsed by such evil, racist discrimination.
    In the Hebrew text we have abridged the second part of R’ Bar-Chayim’s article, “Between Jews and Gentiles — In the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and in Jewish Thought,” because, in our view, the Halacha is the law which obligates every religious Jew while concepts of the Aggadah, the Kabbalah, and Jewish thought are not binding on anyone, as our rabbis have already written: “And so the Aggadic constructs of the disciples of disciples, such as Rav Tanchuma and Rabbi Oshaya and their like — most are incorrect, and therefore we do not rely on the words of Aggadah” (Sefer HaEshkol, Laws of a Torah Scroll, p. 60a); we have expanded on this issue in the portion of Vayeshev.
    http://www.come-and-hear.com
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    THE JEWS ARE CALLED MEN
    Tzfi’a 3
    THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEWS AND GENTILES IN TORAH
    Rabbi David Bar Chaim
    Yeshivat Mercaz HaRav

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    • The last time I looked, Come and Here pretends to be a deep research site on Torah and Talmud but is simply a cesspool of twisted out of context quotes to smear ALL JEWS.

      Get that GARBAGE OUT OF HERE.

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  2. Is it any wonder that @ 25% of young millennial born Jews, identify themselves as having no religion, and feel no kinship to the Jewish people. They feel that this tribal behavior is anachronistic and has no relevancy in the modern world.

    Is it any wonder why when Charedi Jews come up for their financial, and/or sexual crimes in front of a Jewish secular judge that he/she feels no need to find zchusim in their favor?

    He/she feels no personal kinship to these Jews who consider them goyim and announce it in the streets. Hence many Ultra and Hasidics get very long sentences. Think Weiss, Samet, Weinstein, et al Religion does not mitigate as mostv people are starting to think of these Jewish fundamentalists the same way think of Muslim fundamentalists.

    When we respected our Conservative and Reform Jewish Brothers they reciprocated. Good luck today.

    These corrupt Israeli rabbis forget who butters their toast: American non Orthodox Jews. Come the revolution they weill wonder why it happened.

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  3. This is about control, and probably also money. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the non-Israeli rabbis or personal observance. As was said, 20 years ago, this wasn’t a problem. Now, suddenly and mysteriously, it is.

    The rabbinate are like little kids. “I didn’t see it, so I don’t like it! Nyah!”
    Or maybe it’s also, “no gelt, no approvals.”

    I also love the double secret probation list of so-called approved rabbis.
    “Sorry, he’s not on the list.”
    “Then let me see the list.”
    “Sorry, you can’t see the list. Just trust us.”

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    • We don’t need approval from the non-observant part of the Jewish people.
      We’re protecting our legacy.
      Down the road all the reforms, conservative and modern orthodox will have disappeared, assimilated.
      That’s what happens if you start negotiating the Laws and sorting out the Mitsvoth you don’t like.

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      • @Nathan Renaud – we find it amazing how you refer to “negotiating the Laws and sorting out the Mizsvoth you don’t like” but is it a Mitzvah to accept welfare and computers when your children don’t know how to use them? Is it a Mitzvah to request charity when the charity goes not to assisting the people but to lining the pockets of the Rebbes? Is it a Mitzvah to deny your children a secular education? Does G-d tell us to rely on the work of others so that we ourselves can feign Piety? Do the laws of G-d demand of us that we manipulate and steal for our own benefit. The Talmud says that one can lie to create peace and that is the ONLY reason to lie – for the sake of peace. The lies that are told are not peaceful but anti-non Jew and non-secular Jew of the worst kind. Do the laws of G-d allow for the Jew to be another Jew’s Shabbos Goi? Is that not what is happening with the Jewish children who go to army service in Israel while the same Jewish children, albeit “observant” do not. Which children will die of the State of Israel is attacked? Is it piousness for a Chabadnik to claim that a mass shooting in Florida is a gift from G-d, justified and to be honored? Truth and “piousness” should not be in the hand of the person holding the moral compass. Were that to be the case, perhaps it’s time for another 40 days of rain.

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  4. Once upon a time it was easier. A Jew was someone who converted through a recognized beis din or was born to a Jewish mother.
    Then suddenly the Reform and Conservatives created their own conversion courts and announced that folks who had no intention of accepting the authority of Torah and mitzvos were now Jewish.
    Then the Reform announced that one born to a Jewish father and not mother was also Jewish.
    The Chareidi leadership thinks in black and white terms, avoiding all complexity unless it’s a pilpul over an obscure gemara. In their view, if you look and act like them you’re Jewish. If you don’t, it’s questionable. It’s a simplistic approach but it’s the one they use. This way they can deal with the son of a male Reform convert and a non-Jewish woman who walks into the rabbanut and tries to explain how Jewish he is.
    So when they look at Rabbi Lookstein they also see a famous convert of his who does not lead an Orthodox lifestyle and think: okay, black and white. He’s not one of us, so his converts aren’t acceptable.

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    • @garnel
      You neglect to mention that the Chareidi leadership only thinks in black and white when it comes to excluding others and when it solidifies their totalitarian control
      .
      When they see a video of a Rabbi pleasuring himself with a little boy they are willing to entertain all kinds of complexities. When the money they receive is questionably stolen, they are willing to entertain all kinds of complexities. You are wrong to suggest that they only entertain these complexities when discussing an obscure gemarah, Happens all the time, just only when its convenient and profitable for THEM.

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        • @Nathan – either English is your second language or you are a careless typist. If the former is true, what happens when the level of education becomes so diminished that there are no doctors, lawyers, professionals amongst the ultra-Orthodox community? Who will then deliver your children? Help your sick? Build your homes? You are systematically destroying the States in which you refuse to educate your children and learn the language spoken within the country in which you live. The life you are so vigorously and so baselessly defending is unsustainable.

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          • First, you’re right, English is my second language, I am French, and I’m also a careless typist.

            I honestly can’t relate to what you’re telling me now.

            Learning a profession and conducting a religious life isn’t a contradiction.

            We’re “Ultra-orthodox” (i hate using these words, but unfortunately today…) in my family, i learned all my life in Yeshiva. My dad’s business in France makes over 7 million euros per year, pays a lot of taxes, thereby CONTRIBUTING to his country, we have 3 doctors in our family etc.

            In the Hassidic community here in Montreal, there’s many lawyers, doctors, businessmen, well respected etc.
            In schools here, they do receive English lessons, my friend is their teacher.
            I’ve really got a different experience than you apparently, in France and here in Montreal.

            But in general, I’ll say this:
            Secular studies and Torah aren’t contradictory. BUT because of today’s society, very often, going to school implies harming the religion.
            There is already too much assimilation going on, there’s no need to voluntarily create other opportunities for it.
            Managing secular and Torah is very sensitive, not everyone can do it, and we know by experience that people always tend to go to the easiest option.
            So yes, if going secular means most probably straying away from religion, they must choose religion.

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            • @Nathan, along the Eastern Seaboard of New Jersey and New York, the ultra-Orthodox do not learn secular studies after the age of 12 (except girls who are then forbidden in large part to work) and do not know English. They graduate school largely illiterate. They do not learn any classes that would allow them to become doctors, lawyers, etc. Were the Eastern Seaboard to become wholly ultra-Orthodox without any outside influences, there would be no doctors, no lawyers, the people would not be able to function in society. While that may sound great because it avoids “assimilation” in practice it is unsustainable. FULL STOP. They do not marry under secular laws so for all tax purposes, they are largely exempt. Again, that is unsustainable. FULL STOP. Do we really want to see the entire Eastern Seaboard reduced to poverty and the well-being of hospitals like Mount Sinai and Albert Einstein (who was a Jew) get reduced to cinders because there is not money to fund them and no doctors to grace their halls. Canada, as we understand it, enforces public education that requires children to be taught secular subjects (we could be wrong). Canada, while far more socialized, does not allow the types of social welfare allowed by the United States for parents who want 12 children but cannot afford to feed them. How, under the circumstances we have described, are the ultra-Orthodox Jews along the Eastern Seaboard to be perceived as anything but parasites. That is horrifying as there are those of us who consider ourselves equally “as Jewish” but want our children to be doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, artists, musicians, etc. Moreover, and to be quite honest, those of us who pay taxes really do not want to be supporting a family of 14 (12 children and 2 parents) because they do not want to marry according to the law and do not want the husbands to work gainfully.

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