If the Haredi are Forced to Comply in Canada, They Will Relocate to the US

sebastien-proulx-philippe-couillard-j-michel-doyonEducation Minister Sébastien Proulx

LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM CANADA – BE DILIGENT ENFORCE THE LAWS

LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM CANADA – FEAR THEIR ENFORCEMENT AS THOSE UNDER SCRUTINY WILL RELOCATE TO THE US.

LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM CANADA’S SATMAR LEADER ALEX WERZBERGER – SO WHAT THAT THE TEACHERS DON’T HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES? OUR TEACHERS PROBABLY KNOW MORE THAN THOSE WHO DO….

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“Satmar community leader Alex Werzberger, whose daughters attended Beth Esther, told The CJN the school has tried and continues to try to meet the law’s requirements, but Chassidim will not compromise their religious beliefs. This means they won’t teach certain subjects, such as the mandatory Ethics and Religious Culture course (ERC) or sex education, or even certain literature or scientific theories.

“There’s no way that’s going to happen. If worse comes to worst, we’ll move to the [United] States,” he said

As for the teachers’ lack of credentials, Werzberger said: “They come from our own community. They have not gone to college, but they know English, French, math and so on. They probably know more than those who are certified.””

 

The Canadian Jewish News:

SOME HAREDI SCHOOLS STILL NOT COMPLYING WITH LAW: REPORT

http://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/haredi-schools-still-not-complying-law-report

MONTREAL – Although some chassidic and other haredi schools are making progress in conforming to the law, at least two continue to fail to meet minimal requirements, according to a report to the Quebec education ministry by its advisory group on private education.

The 2014-2015 annual report of the Commission consultative de l’enseignement privé (CCEP), made public in May, cites the most serious problems with Beth Esther Academy and Yeshiva Gedola Merkaz Hatorah.

The CCEP recommended that Beth Esther’s permit, which was revoked in 2012, not be reissued.

However, despite pressure from the Parti Québécois and Coalition Avenir Québec, Education Minister Sébastien Proulx has decided to allow Beth Esther and Yeshiva Gedola to continue to operate, because it is “in the interest of the children.” The government, he said in the National Assembly, will continue to work with the schools to correct the situation.

His ministry rejected the recommendation of the CCEP and renewed Yeshiva Gedola’s permit for another year, which ends this June.

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Among other breaches, the CCEP said the Satmar elementary and high school for girls is not adequately teaching the province’s compulsory curriculum, known as the Régime pédagogique, in terms of either content or hours, and its teachers are unqualified.

After operating for decades under the radar, the school, founded in 1956, was told in 2003 it had to have a permit, and four years later was granted one on the condition it rectify numerous problems that the ministry identified.

In 2014-2015, Beth Esther had 304 students and 24 teachers, of whom only two held a licence recognized by Quebec.

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6 thoughts on “If the Haredi are Forced to Comply in Canada, They Will Relocate to the US

  1. I’m a libertarian on this. The less government interference in our lives the better.

    For thousands of years the right wing of the Jewish people shunned secular knowledge and immersed themselves and their children in learning Torah day and night.

    You and I may disagree with this style of education but they bothered no one then and bother no one now.

    There are certain trades they go into — diamonds, jewlery, retail/wholesale businesses, import/export etc .
    The only reason is because of PC. This way they can tell the Muslim Madrassas : see we require same from ALL religions.

    Had there not been 9/11, this would not have happened.

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    • @flatbusher, the problem as we see it is that they continue to learn Torah day and night and many don’t work. Those who want out of the community have no options. The reduced government interference (using your preference) increases the insular control over the community, increasing the likelihood that the children lack choices to do something different then their parents. Were the country of origin, whether Canada, England, the US or Israel, etc. to step away and allow Yeshivas sole control over the teachings of the kids, there would be no choice for any of those kids but to be indoctrinated and largely illiterate. It is our position that rather then decrease government interference for the good of the community, the result of your approach is a generation of children held hostage to their learning or lack thereof.

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    • It’s not the secular lifestyle or immersion in the religion that is a problem, it is the fact that the men spend the whole day at Yeshiva, to the exclusion of work. You claim that they “…bother no one…”. Well I disagree. The fact that a man who has fathered 8 or more children would spend his days studying the Torah rather than working to support his children is bothersome to me and anyone else who pays taxes and ultimately is supporting those 8 children for this man. He is welcome to study in his free time, but he should be working to support his family FIRST!

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  2. Quebec is an interesting phenomenon. Unlike the rest of Canada they are not interested in multiculturalism, nor do the fear political correctness when it comes to targeting minorities. The Satmars can play the “We have special cultural requirements and you’re racist if you disagree” card only so much in Montreal.

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  3. >>“They come from our own community. They have not gone to college, but they know English, French, math and so on. They probably know more than those who are certified.””’

    And, of course, we should just take their word for it. No need to verify, because God has already performed the verification.

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